About this Episode
In this episode of the Agency Profit Podcast, Marcel sits down with Dr. Kristian Alomá, PhD, a narrative design expert and author of Start with the Story. Together, they dive deep into how psychology and storytelling play pivotal roles in shaping effective agency services that stay aligned with client needs and shifting market demands. Kristian explains the impact of narrative psychology in understanding customer behavior, making the case that services aren’t just about solving immediate problems but creating long-term value by fitting seamlessly into clients’ broader stories. As the discussion unfolds, listeners gain actionable insights on how to design services around real client struggles, making them the “hero” of their own narratives, and fostering meaningful relationships that go beyond transactions. For agency leaders eager to deepen client connections, boost relevance, and differentiate in an increasingly competitive field, this episode is packed with fresh perspectives and practical steps.
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Points of Interest
- 00:01 – 00:42 – Introduction to Guest: Marcel introduces Dr. Kristian Alomá, PhD, an expert in narrative psychology and author of Start With the Story, to discuss the power of storytelling in agency service design.
- 00:48 – 01:14 – Background on Narrative Design: Kristian introduces his agency, Threadline, and explains narrative design as applying storytelling principles to branding, marketing, and business strategy.
- 01:52 – 02:18 – What is Narrative Psychology? Kristian describes narrative psychology as the study of how people make sense of experiences through storytelling, emphasizing its importance in understanding client relationships.
- 03:10 – 04:20 – Power of Storytelling: Marcel and Kristian discuss how storytelling resonates with both logical and emotional thinking, making it a powerful tool in sales and brand connection.
- 05:38 – 06:30 – Changing Agency Landscape: Kristian explains how agency success has shifted from mere service delivery to forming meaningful client relationships that support brand values and identity.
- 08:27 – 09:30 – Beyond Behavioral Marketing: Kristian discusses moving from a behavior-driven marketing approach to one focused on narratives that align with both client goals and agency values.
- 10:23 – 11:33 – Client Relationships Across Career Stages: Kristian highlights the importance of adapting agency services to fit the evolving needs of clients as they grow from entry-level to executive roles.
- 11:47 – 12:40 – Differentiation in a Specialized Market: Marcel and Kristian talk about how understanding clients’ unique stories allows agencies to differentiate in an increasingly specialized market.
- 15:08 – 16:15 – Hero’s Paradox: Kristian explains the concept of the “hero’s paradox,” where placing the client as the hero ultimately strengthens the agency’s role as a trusted partner.
- 18:50 – 19:18 – Identifying Client Struggles: Marcel asks Kristian for tactical advice on understanding client struggles, which Kristian breaks down through his STORY framework.
- 19:17 – 20:25 – Introduction to the STORY Framework: Kristian outlines his framework: Struggle, Tools, Objectives, Rewards, and Yearning (STORY), as a guide to designing client-centered services.
- 23:29 – 24:45 – The Importance of Understanding Struggles: Marcel and Kristian discuss the importance of going beyond surface-level problems to truly understand a client’s struggle for deeper impact.
- 27:39 – 28:32 – Focusing on Individual Challenges: Kristian emphasizes the need to view client challenges from the individual’s perspective within the organization, making service solutions more impactful and personalized.
Show Notes
- Book: Start with the Story: Brand-Building in a Narrative Economy
- Threadline: Visit the Website
- Connect with Kristian A. Alomá:
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